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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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fear

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon stripler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural come

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on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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hey first good evening welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained

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live on beyond explanation i'm your host

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lon stricker coming to you within a

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candid shot of historic gettysburg

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pennsylvania thanks for joining

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so before i get started as many of you

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know uh

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we we lost our dear friend uh

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mark fuller this past uh past week or so

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last thursday i think it was uh you know

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a little over a year ago

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mark introduced himself to me

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and he and his son had a proposal

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actually incorporating

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into narrated video

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to beyond explanation youtube channel

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then soon after that i made an offer to

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some of the team members and others

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uh that we'd host live talk shows that

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they were interested in starting a show

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and at present we're at six regular

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now mark's passing hit hard

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with his friends and associates and um

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you know mark and i talked almost daily

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his eclectic knowledge of music digital

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computing

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automobiles old paranormal radio except

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it was amazing uh mark and bill

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have put a lot of good work into

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establishing this channel so um

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listeners will agree

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you know i only had one year's worth of

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conversation and friendship with mark

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but you know i'll never forget him so uh

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i just wanted to mention it and uh we're

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going again starting tonight so once

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i welcome ufo research and author

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dr raymond keller to hurricane radio now

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cosmic ray

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is a retired history professor who has

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lived and worked in 44 different

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countries

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and has been writing about ufos and

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paranormal activities since

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1967. he was the founder and director of

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the outer space

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international research and investigation

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society

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he has written several books including

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his venus rising trilogy

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with the titles venus rising a concise

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history of the second planet found final

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countdown rockets to venus and cosmic

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rays

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excellent venus adventure as as well

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ray provides regular exclusive articles

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to the phantoms and monsters blog so ray

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thank you a pleasure to be on your

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program

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and to speak with

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sir ray before we get started i know you

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have an event coming up

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in sedona arizona in in august can you

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uh yes

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at the unity of sedona

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church on 100 worth

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uh determine their eq or

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extraterrestrial

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and work through uh various uh

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characteristics of their life that point

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to

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discover

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some of their celestial points of origin

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were already expecting a packed house

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and then

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regarding the life and times of two

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prominent

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arizona women in the world of paritions

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uh dorothy martin of sedona

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uh who in her day was

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and predicted future events then

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columba and they'll be

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powerpoint uh replete with never before

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seen photographs and drawings from the

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1950s

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of flying saucers and incredible beings

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and other planets in our solar system

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and beyond

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and then it'll be time set aside for uh

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uh questions and answers that people may

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have about

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the venusians and their angel force

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operative here on the

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uh earth at this time so it will be

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well publicized the kudos newspaper

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a magazine in sedona is going to do a

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uh article on it we could have some

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people from far

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and wide come coming over there

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interesting well i hope the event goes

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uh we're kind of having some audio

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problems with you ray i i think you or

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you want a cell phone

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uh we might have to switch you to a

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oh okay i am on uh i'm on a regular

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uh just a co my comcast

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number we could try that one see if it's

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the other numbers 04

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uh two one two four seven

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three seven hey hey lon i think we might

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have it a little better now we might

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wanna stay on this one okay if it don't

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drop i'll move over to the other one

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okay okay we'll see how it goes

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so ray um couple

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a couple months ago i um contacted you

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it actually was in it was in april early

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10th or 11th i contacted you about

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a um about a witness

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or experiencer i guess i can say in

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hartwick new york who had an encounter

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or a phone call from someone who said

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they were injured

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cold you remember that conversation

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uh guess i do remember i do remember

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that conversation very well

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um what do you make of that i mean you

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this person called her twice and

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the uh the the car id came up as injured

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cold that's what freaked her out

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now she didn't know what it meant but my

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gabriel do exactly what it meant and uh

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the person on the other end of the phone

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to report this what what's your thoughts

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well indrid cold of course is associated

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woody derenberger case uh woody lived in

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mineral west virginia small

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community outside of parkersburg

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from from the earth and then

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the lanual oceans as well as uh

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a period of time and um

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surprised as some

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as many of the space explorer to come to

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frequently contact others

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as extraterrestrials so it

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it was uh in indrid cold or some

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aspect of that entity um

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after the the experiencer

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had seen a wing humanoid or what she

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well it kind of mirrored the moth man

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do you think the original injured cold

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had any association whatsoever with the

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mothman phenomena

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researcher and um

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not only the mothman but cryptids and

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ufo entities and

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and and so forth and uh he was also

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on the on the uh the indra cold case at

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that he was uh investigating the silver

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uh the warnings from from the mothman

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that there's a connection there and

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john a keel interestingly enough

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came to believe that a wide variety

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of of uh

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of phenomena were were interlinked

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that that ghosts

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psychic phenomena other kinds of

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apparitions

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cryptids uh extraterrestrial

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uh aliens that it all had

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some connection some obscure connection

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possibly inter-dimensionality uh even

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that

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the bigfoot in there are

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so uh yes there's there's some kind of a

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connection there

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uh to be sure and it's it's great that

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there are

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sites like phantoms and monsters and

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and um in another

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site where investigators are are

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constantly probing

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and searching for for for these answers

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revelation that

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that there's an acknowledgment of a

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reality and a technology

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as they now call them and

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that that acknowledgement could probably

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uh to this other kind of phenomena as

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uh now speaking of this ufo so-called

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ufo disclosure by the government

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what do you make about that was actually

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released do you think it was uh

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i don't know do you do you think it was

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enough information that was actually

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that they may go further or you think

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i think for the time being that's as far

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as their

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they're going to go is acknowledging

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that a real phenomena exists

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and there's some kind of technology

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behind it that they that they don't

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understand but i think that

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the explanation that it's uh

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uh russian or or chinese is pretty

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pretty weak

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uh because this type of phenomena

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as we know goes back to uh biblical

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times and even before

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you know with the zechariah stitching uh

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information and all the accounts

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bible ezekiel and the wheel within the

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wheel

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and and and the various uh

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uh hierarchies of uh angelic beans and

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and so forth so uh it's been around a

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lot longer than there's been a

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then there's been a russia or a

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communist china so

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there's definitely um

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a technology there that's far beyond

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anything that

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the russians or the chinese might have

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well you know i i think that most of us

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who have been investigating and looking

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into these phenomena for

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so many years i mean you've been doing

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this longer than i have but

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uh i i don't think we're really

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surprised

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that i was limited to what we got

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though you know we'd like to see a

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little bit more so we're gonna have to

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listen to more people complaining that

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disclosure hasn't really come yet but uh

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yeah you know i i i was it was actually

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for me it was

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much less than i even expected i thought

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we'd get a little bit more than that but

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then again

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you know it's the government they're not

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gonna say but so much they're not gonna

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come out and say there's aliens out

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there

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i just don't think that's ever gonna

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happen unless they actually have

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you know something actually happens or

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where they gotta say it

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so you know this this also kind of goes

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into

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another subject that i had mentioned to

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you a while back that

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i'd like to talk to you about and uh

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that's the valiant four

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uh incidents the can you kind of give us

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an eye

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the audience an idea who valiant

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valiant door and hit and and the account

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of thor was first written up by

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um augustine roberts in the val

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thor story and

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that original document is published

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on online and uh i uncovered that i went

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and posted it

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on yours on your site people can read

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that about an emissary from venus

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who came down and was on the earth for

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three years and

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uh visited in the

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pentagon visited with president

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eisenhower

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and then there's the thing that he had

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with

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dr frank strange's and

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i go into detail on that in my first

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book venus

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that valium thor took at a flying saucer

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club meeting

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in high bridge new jersey conducted by

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howard you'll also see photos there

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um and uh florian thor uh

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vice commander dawn uh from the victor

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one

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spaceship you'll also see uh

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photographs of their of uh others and

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two others in the crew some females

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and uh then you'll see uh others who

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were

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at the meeting including howard mender

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his

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and then uh

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to attend that day and then

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you'll see august roberts

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comments on the back of uh

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[Music]

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there's a spark and she was one of the

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flying saucer club members there

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july 1958 meeting

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and she reported seeing one of the

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uh venusians in the party jump over a 14

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foot

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fence and all that all those photos and

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more

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are are provided

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in in the link um for this yeah we have

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the link

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it's the renz.com link uh

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bill or uh eventually want to put that

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up in the chat room

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it's uh you've got all kinds of stuff in

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there i mean photos and everything

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uh you know the the story about that

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valiant thor that intrigues me is

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uh the fact that there are photographs

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and it seems like

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the uh the pentagon actually took this

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guy seriously

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oh oh yes there's a lot of evidence that

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um

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venus rising book the first one

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where he presented journalist

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credentials

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from a newspaper in south africa

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and it's very interesting because um

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i went to do further research

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on the south africa venus connection

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and raymond palmer he was

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the editor of a magazine in 1956

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the fourth uh issue fourth monthly issue

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of

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flying saucers from other worlds and he

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about elizabeth clare she was from

426
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south africa and she reported these

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contacts with

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didn't give her

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their name but uh she

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identified their base in the drakensberg

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range where these uh scout craft

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similar to the ones that were reported

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by

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george adamski we're going in and out of

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mountains

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range so i have that whole article

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and uh in the in the forthcoming

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uh postings

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on phantoms and monsters

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i'll have a whole uh series on

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dr frank strange's and and some of this

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information that i got from

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uh from his files about the south

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african connection

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and and then the whole life in general

446
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of dr frank strange's who is the

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who is the one who met valiant thor in

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interesting yeah that that whole thing

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um

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that whole story fascinated me

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um you know i i wasn't really sure

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exactly what had happened uh

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you know there's a lot of different

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information out there

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but of course you know it's since i met

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you and since i read your book it's um

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there's much more there and i i i

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recommend that book even the whole

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trilogy series to anybody is interested

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00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:49,840
the uh the links are available

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00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,880
on phantoms and monsters on the uh on

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your articles

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um currently we're running a series of

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articles about the resonant aliens which

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is

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i've been getting a lot of feedback on

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that uh

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00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:06,240
it's very well written as all your as

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all your things are great

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00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:12,480
it's uh thank you thank you yeah it is

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it's great

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00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:16,960
it's a great series and um

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you know it kind of makes you you think

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00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:20,320
actually what's been

475
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:23,440
going on it kind of kind of

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00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:27,039
goes hand in hand with a lot of this ufo

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disclosure because when you talk ufo i'm

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sorry but

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but some people may think but i there's

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aliens involved in that it's not just

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government other governments and u.s

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00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:38,080
government

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00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:41,919
involved with this so

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absolutely so uh and of course you're

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going to keep writing a lot of this

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00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:48,000
stuff

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and and presenting it like i said i'm

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getting a lot of great feedback now

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um you had two other books that you

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00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:58,320
recently

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00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:01,360
uh published uh can you talk about those

492
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:03,600
a bit

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00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:07,200
oh yes uh the uh the next one is uh the

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vastness conspiracy

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and this looks at um the various space

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agencies around the planet

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uh particularly um the former soviet

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union and now

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the the russian federation and then

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japan with the octatsuki robe uh

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to venus um and then

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the united states with a mariner

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and magellan uh frozen

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other other space projects uh involving

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venus and then of course

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the european uh agency

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and the venus express

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and then i go behind the scenes and look

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at

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and projects a little publicized or even

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classified

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such as

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[Music]

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operation white stork which was our

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monitoring

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of the soviet union in the 1960s

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and the the published report the

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monitoring of fema

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they really found there and um

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so this is this is all right

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and uh it just puts

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them there's a lot more space and near

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space

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in our solar system um

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then then the government has been uh

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letting on and then there was project

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sign you know even going back to

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1947 the precursor to uh

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00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:00,640
to grudge and then blue book and

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00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:03,120
in the project sign report it said that

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they had a knowledge

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00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:08,880
of 22 extra solar

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uh planets with intelligent life

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00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:15,840
on it and then they also

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00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:18,880
identified venus

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mars and saturn as possible

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sources for extraterrestrials coming to

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earth

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00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:29,440
uh from from our own solar system

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so this kind of thing continues in the

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next book

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which is um lady columba

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venus revelations now that was columba

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00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:40,960
krebs

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00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:44,799
she was uh she was a theosophist

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and an artist and a social activist and

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00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:49,600
she traveled around the world

548
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she she lived in india she lived in

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germany

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00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:56,799
um and

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00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,080
she was always in search of

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00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:02,480
a profound truth and spiritual

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00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:04,840
understanding

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00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:07,840
but when she got back to the united

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00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:10,559
states in the 1950s she was living

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00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:13,840
um she moved to uh williams arizona or

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00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:17,360
she was born in greensburg pennsylvania

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00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:20,159
which is kind of interesting and uh

559
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:20,960
bench yeah

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00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:24,480
yes since our friend uh stan gordon's

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00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:26,000
from there

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00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:28,960
oh yes yes and i know there's a i know

563
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:31,120
there's a ridge out there

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00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:34,480
where uh this constant ufo activity

565
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:40,149
which actually runs down to where you

566
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:42,480
are down in monk down in morgantown

567
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:47,039
actually yes yes that's right

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00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:51,200
well um this uh this annabelle krebs

569
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:54,960
she um uh had moved to williams arizona

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00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:55,520
and then

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00:28:03,430 --> 00:27:58,880
um uh from there

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00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:03,440
she moved to um outside of joshua tree

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00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,600
because she became fascinated with

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00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,360
with flying saucers and with the

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00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:11,120
contactees and

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00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:14,399
and george van tassel's

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00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:17,039
yearly events out at the giant rock at

578
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,080
landers

579
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:21,360
uh california the airfield there that he

580
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,480
owned and operated

581
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,399
george van tassel was an airplane

582
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:28,480
mechanic from ohio

583
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:32,320
that moved out there after world war ii

584
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:36,080
and he bought the uh he bought the uh

585
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,360
the giant rock from a prospector

586
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:41,600
uh to turn it into an airfield and he

587
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:44,240
built a home underneath the

588
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:47,279
underneath the rock and this is where he

589
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:47,600
met

590
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,840
an extraterrestrial from venus named

591
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,039
solganda

592
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:53,039
who gave him the instructions to build

593
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:54,640
the integratron

594
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:58,159
which is a kind of uh of a time

595
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:01,440
machine and a rejuvenation device and

596
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:04,640
the details about that are also in

597
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:08,320
uh in my venus books but she became good

598
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:09,279
friends with

599
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,840
george van tassel and also with another

600
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:13,440
contact he

601
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:16,480
uh she became closely associated with

602
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:19,600
and became the secretary to

603
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:22,720
and that was truman bethram

604
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,039
truman bethram was a highway uh worker

605
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:30,080
in nevada and then he moved to redondo

606
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:31,120
beach

607
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:34,399
after he had an encounter

608
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:38,080
with an extraterrestrial

609
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:41,039
from from venus who was also the

610
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:42,320
commander

611
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:45,520
of a moon base and

612
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:48,559
what happened with annabelle krebs is

613
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:51,760
she met she met

614
00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:55,840
bethurum's friends

615
00:30:02,149 --> 00:29:59,279
and she traveled with them for

616
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,159
off and on for a period of four years

617
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:04,799
and the book is about her visitation

618
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:08,080
to the moon-based plarion on the far

619
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:12,240
side of the moon she also visited

620
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,679
venusian cities that were

621
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,320
on floating islands invisible floating

622
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,399
islands in the atmosphere

623
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,960
here on earth and under the sea and in

624
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:24,080
caves

625
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:27,440
uh vast caverns uh under the earth where

626
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:27,919
they have

627
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,880
saucer bases and so forth it's very

628
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:32,399
exciting and what

629
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:35,520
uh what's terrific about that book is it

630
00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:36,559
it contains

631
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:39,919
all of her original artwork uh

632
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,880
and she drew this was in the this was in

633
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:44,799
the late 1950s

634
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:48,799
and she's drawing blue avians and

635
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:52,000
and uh all kind of advanced incredible

636
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:54,399
things and she describes them

637
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:57,600
inventions and things that that we we're

638
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,399
only now

639
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:00,880
just coming around to think about but

640
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:03,600
she actually draws these and

641
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,840
draws the moon base and everything and

642
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,080
she revealed information

643
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,480
that was not known by the general public

644
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,480
at the time

645
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:15,519
the russians had a project the soviets

646
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:16,840
had a project called

647
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:22,080
e4 which was to detonate an atomic

648
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:25,600
bomb on the moon to prove to the rest of

649
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:26,559
the world their

650
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:29,200
space superiority you know that they

651
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:30,960
they figured the whole world would see

652
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,120
it and

653
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:35,679
so behind the scenes the venusians were

654
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:36,960
working to

655
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:40,480
you know to not make that that happen

656
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:42,720
and then the americans had a similar

657
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:44,480
program

658
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:47,919
to militarize the moon it was called

659
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:51,919
project a119 and we were also going to

660
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:54,080
put atomic missiles

661
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:57,279
uh on on the moon

662
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,120
and um a professor from the university

663
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:03,279
of uh

664
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:12,950
he blew the lid on it and said that

665
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:16,240
the united states should not militarize

666
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:19,039
uh outer space and should not detonate

667
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:20,000
any

668
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:23,360
out

669
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:26,480
if if it's inhabited or even if there's

670
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:28,640
some kind of indigenous life there

671
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:31,679
and now of course we know we know from

672
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:34,720
uh nasa and in recent revelations

673
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,080
yet yes there is water on the moon

674
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,320
and it's not just locked up in the

675
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:42,880
regolith and the lunar soil

676
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:46,559
but um there there are vast lakes

677
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:49,200
uh and on the south pole of the moon and

678
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:50,080
on the

679
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:56,480
iced over but

680
00:33:02,870 --> 00:32:59,519
now nasa wants to use that

681
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:02,880
resource as as

682
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:05,200
a possible you know conversion to

683
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:05,919
hydrogen

684
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,880
fuel or have or heavy uh you know heavy

685
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:10,799
hydrogen or something

686
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:13,360
for for rocket ships and and having

687
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:14,559
bases

688
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:21,919
but uh you know in my venus books

689
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:25,360
i talk about uh the secret project

690
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:29,120
that at corollitos

691
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:32,399
new mexico corrales new mexico

692
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:35,440
uh with dr heineck was appointed by the

693
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:36,399
president

694
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:41,600
program to find landing sites for the

695
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:42,880
apollo

696
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:46,880
mission so they were looking at the rs

697
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:49,039
the region around the aras darkest

698
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:51,440
crater because there were all these

699
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,120
strange red pulsating lights

700
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:56,960
um coming from there and there were

701
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:58,159
reports of

702
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:01,120
of objects moving across the surface of

703
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:02,559
the moon and leaving

704
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:04,240
tracks and everything and that's why

705
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:05,919
they picked the

706
00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:08,800
sea of tranquility which is directly to

707
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:12,270
the south of the ares darkest crater

708
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:13,839
[Music]

709
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:17,200
and so all that information and more is

710
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:18,399
in the

711
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:21,839
is in this venus book and um

712
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:24,399
and it's just very exciting and and that

713
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:25,919
that information comes

714
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:29,520
from uh from um the files of one

715
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:32,879
auto binder um and

716
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:35,599
he was a ufologist he wrote five books

717
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:36,639
about

718
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:40,159
uh ufos and the amazing ted owens who

719
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:41,359
who could predict

720
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:44,879
uh natural disasters and so forth

721
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:48,159
uh and he he was contacted by

722
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:52,560
these um these insectoid type creatures

723
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:55,760
be be like creatures from venus and all

724
00:35:02,230 --> 00:34:58,240
that information is also in the

725
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,240
uh is in the book and um

726
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:04,560
he was uh otto bender was also the

727
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:05,599
creator of

728
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,480
over 200 comic book and science fiction

729
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,400
characters including

730
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,040
uh supergirl and a lot of the the

731
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:15,359
characters that he created and wrote

732
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:16,720
about

733
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,520
um were inspired by actual ufo cases so

734
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:23,599
he worked on a book that was never

735
00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:24,800
published

736
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:28,839
with august c roberts the famous

737
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:31,119
ufo photo uh

738
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,800
photograph chronicler and um

739
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:36,560
i have all those documents and

740
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:37,839
everything in

741
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:41,119
in my file including all all the comic

742
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:42,320
books that he did

743
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,000
for uh the supergirl series so

744
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,200
i mean it's all it's all uh linked

745
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:52,160
together it's all pretty amazing

746
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,920
um we're gonna quit we got a question

747
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:55,920
from vincent um

748
00:36:02,470 --> 00:35:59,280
i wanted to you to uh

749
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:02,480
kind of tell us what you believe is on

750
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,359
venus or

751
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:06,000
any type of civilization that's there

752
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:07,200
and how the makeup

753
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,800
is for those who don't know oh yes

754
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:12,960
um that's a good uh that's a good

755
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:14,800
question vincent

756
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,240
um well the civilization is largely

757
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,640
underground there are a few structures

758
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:22,560
on the surface

759
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:25,119
um that that can be seen and some of

760
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:26,720
them have been

761
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:30,560
photographed as well

762
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:36,480
and there's one particular photograph

763
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:40,000
that they kind of looked like the lines

764
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:41,359
at cusco

765
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:44,560
in per in peru i've seen that that

766
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:45,760
photograph

767
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:48,880
and there's one with a big h-block

768
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,079
type structure and there's

769
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:55,440
a communications facilities and arrays

770
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:56,960
but most of the

771
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,839
uh most of the life is uh underground

772
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:00,960
because

773
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:05,520
uh millennia ago uh venus was bombarded

774
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:09,040
um by uh

775
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:11,520
in a in a cosmic storm in a cosmic

776
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:13,280
meteor storm

777
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:17,119
and uh it uh it slowed the orbit

778
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,040
significantly and um

779
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:24,400
there are aquifers and these

780
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:28,160
large type of there's these large towers

781
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:32,000
that are tiered um that uh

782
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,760
that pump the water and then the water

783
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:38,400
you know kind of slides down and in in

784
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:38,800
these

785
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,079
tiers uh where they have

786
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:45,200
you know hydroponic gardens and uh

787
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:48,240
and so forth so they're self-sufficient

788
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:51,680
and um a lot of the information

789
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:55,280
uh about venus was uh originally leaked

790
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:56,000
by dr

791
00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:59,040
frank strange's uh

792
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,400
from his from his interviews and his

793
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:04,560
inner circle meetings

794
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:08,000
uh with uh valiant thor and um

795
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,310
um

796
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:19,670
what are your thoughts on

797
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,400
i i'd say not just venus but alien

798
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:24,240
hierarchy

799
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:28,240
and uh you know what kind of agenda do

800
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:30,640
they have as far as uh

801
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:34,000
not only for us or for

802
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:37,119
for other possible civilizations in the

803
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,280
universe

804
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:41,920
well there there is uh there there is a

805
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:42,960
hierarchy

806
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,000
of uh of light we could we could call it

807
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:49,040
that right and um because

808
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:51,200
because the earth is the closest

809
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:53,359
planetary neighbor

810
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:55,760
uh to venus there's been a constant

811
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:58,240
interaction going back through

812
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:01,359
uh back through through history and

813
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:05,359
um if we look at uh various accounts

814
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:09,359
and and legends in uh in world religions

815
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,880
and mythology uh we can detect the

816
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:14,079
presence of

817
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:18,400
venusians and even outright

818
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,680
individuals claiming to have gone to

819
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:23,599
venus for example

820
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:27,200
in the in the bible paul talks about

821
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:30,880
going to the um up into the third heaven

822
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:34,240
into the third sphere what what

823
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:37,200
so a lot of people don't realize that

824
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,680
that

825
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:40,079
and he said i went to the third sphere

826
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,040
of heaven

827
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:43,520
but i didn't know i couldn't tell if i

828
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:46,720
was in my body or out of my body

829
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:49,119
the same thing that george adamski wrote

830
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:50,480
about

831
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,079
planets he

832
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,880
he didn't know whether he was in in or

833
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:58,560
out of uh

834
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:01,359
body because it's it's just borders on

835
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:02,320
the

836
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:06,079
type of mystical um experience but when

837
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:07,359
we look at the

838
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:10,800
at the how the the pre-copernican world

839
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:14,240
looked at the solar system

840
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:17,440
you know we didn't know back then that

841
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:20,960
all the planets went around the sun

842
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:23,599
so that so the objects in the heavens

843
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:26,079
were gauged by their luminosity

844
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:29,119
or their brightness and so the sun would

845
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,160
be

846
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,200
sphere

847
00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:36,000
or the first orb the moon would be the

848
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,800
second

849
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:38,640
and then venus would be the third

850
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,480
because it's the third brightest object

851
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:45,359
in the sky so and we see lots of other

852
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:46,960
references in the bible

853
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:50,160
to the the planet venus the bride jesus

854
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:53,599
identifies in in

855
00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:56,960
revelation chapter 22 as being from

856
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:06,150
and and uh of course peter says uh

857
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:09,920
in second peter to let uh

858
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:12,400
let the morning star rise in your in

859
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:13,200
your hearts

860
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:16,319
and uh there's many many references to

861
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,680
um the the morning star

862
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:22,800
and um then we see

863
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:25,520
you know emmanuel swedenborg um

864
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:26,640
describes

865
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,880
a journey to the planet venus and he

866
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:29,920
describes

867
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:32,880
the hierarchy of angels and then that

868
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:35,599
there's a a kind of apprenticeship going

869
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:37,359
on where people from

870
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:41,119
other worlds are incarnating uh

871
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:45,680
there after uh after a long struggles

872
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,480
on other planets where they can advance

873
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:50,240
into a higher

874
00:42:01,829 --> 00:41:58,240
and rumi writes about it and about the

875
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:01,839
the uh the venusians coming to earth

876
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:03,040
that there's like four

877
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,720
thousand four thousand of them on earth

878
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:08,079
at any one time

879
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:11,760
and uh and uh so we see that this

880
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:15,040
is a a big connection there between uh

881
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:18,720
our history and the planet venus and all

882
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:21,040
the different civilizations

883
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:24,640
um the uh the mayan calendar

884
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,640
is based on the revolutions of the

885
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:30,560
planet venus

886
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,160
and uh just the

887
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:37,359
uh all the other ancient civilizations

888
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:41,119
they all have um you know they all

889
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,870
it has a kind of feminine quality and

890
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:50,319
the reason for that like

891
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:54,000
with the inanna the bee goddess uh

892
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:58,000
in samaria and uh

893
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:01,359
astarte and uh aphrodite and

894
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:03,920
and so forth but the reason for that the

895
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,560
reason for that is because our ancestors

896
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:08,800
no matter where they were from

897
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:12,160
on the world in the world

898
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:15,359
they would see venus in the sky

899
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:18,240
as you know as not a thick star but a

900
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:19,359
wandering

901
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:23,520
star you know thus identifying it as a

902
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,079
planet

903
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:26,240
and because it is so close sometimes you

904
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:27,119
could even

905
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:30,480
make it out as a as an ore but what made

906
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:33,680
venus different was that it's followed

907
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:34,240
by

908
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:38,480
uh almost like a cometary tail

909
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:41,440
and this is the interaction of the solar

910
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:43,200
wind with the

911
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:46,319
uh with the the atmosphere of venus at

912
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,599
its polar

913
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:50,400
at its north polar region and so it

914
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:51,200
leaves this

915
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:55,599
uh trail uh of ionized gases

916
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,319
it's about five five million kilometers

917
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,640
long so when venus is in the closest

918
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:03,599
approach

919
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:06,319
it looks like it has these these golden

920
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,359
tresses

921
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,400
and so our ancestors said oh

922
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,720
that that must be the goddess that's the

923
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,560
great goddess

924
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:16,880
so this is that yeah this is this this

925
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,160
is how

926
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:21,200
venus became the the

927
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:24,720
the the sole planet uh of of a female

928
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:25,760
persuasion

929
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:29,520
except for the earth mother gaia right

930
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:32,560
um you wrote an article a while back

931
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:32,960
that

932
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:35,760
was published in um in phantoms of

933
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:36,640
monsters

934
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,240
series about ufo propulsion

935
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,319
now what are your thoughts on propulsion

936
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:44,319
what do you think is

937
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:48,240
possibly the the overriding answer

938
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:52,240
or the the most sensible answer as to

939
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:58,710
i do believe it's an electromagnetic

940
00:45:02,470 --> 00:44:59,359
type of

941
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:02,480
uh propulsion system

942
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:05,920
and of course that article um

943
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:09,520
is really un unparalleled because

944
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:12,319
um i give you the names of all the

945
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,520
scientists

946
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,680
the the corporations that they were

947
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:17,119
working with actual

948
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:20,240
photographs of them handling

949
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:23,680
equipment and giving interviews

950
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:27,599
to to major newspapers and

951
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,720
detailing around the edges

952
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:33,440
the existence of the united states

953
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:34,000
government

954
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,920
sponsoring an anti-gravity research

955
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,400
uh program even von braun and these

956
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:42,640
other scientists that were

957
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:45,920
that were rocketeers were saying that

958
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,160
that they had to find something more

959
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:49,920
economical because it

960
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:54,240
it cost a fortune literally a fortune

961
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:58,240
like a quarter of the defense budget

962
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:01,599
uh you know to just build one uh

963
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:04,640
one rocket and the amount of fuel and

964
00:46:08,270 --> 00:46:05,359
everything is

965
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,280
totally impractical for for

966
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:10,480
interplanetary travel

967
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:12,560
and so all these scientists were working

968
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:13,520
on these pro

969
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,040
these programs and uh

970
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:19,920
if and and so it took a lot of time to

971
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:20,240
go

972
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:23,520
find all of the you know all the hints

973
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:26,480
and all the clues and popular mechanics

974
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:27,200
and

975
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:32,079
regional newspapers

976
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,640
where these uh you know corporations

977
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:36,640
martin marietta and

978
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:39,680
these uh other corporations were located

979
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,000
that were contracting with german

980
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,240
scientists and other scientists

981
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,119
in america and from around the world and

982
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:50,160
the gravity research

983
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:58,150
in new boston um new hampshire

984
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,400
and so forth to you know to put that

985
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,640
to put that all together and it's

986
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:06,640
detailed information

987
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:09,599
but this was the very beginning if you

988
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:10,720
read that

989
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,760
the readers take the time to go over

990
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,680
those and check out everything

991
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:17,359
you know check out everything and all

992
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:21,040
the all the references that i put there

993
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:24,400
uh you'll see that if um

994
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:29,040
if we do have stuff like a tic tac

995
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:33,680
or ourself that can do those kind of

996
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,240
operate at those speeds and make those

997
00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:38,640
kind of maneuvers

998
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,040
it's an anti-grav it's an anti-gravity

999
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:44,559
electromagnetic propulsion

1000
00:47:50,829 --> 00:47:47,599
system and the origins of it uh

1001
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:50,839
were from 1955.

1002
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:53,839
yeah it was a good article really

1003
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:56,319
excellent article uh i got a lot of good

1004
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,000
comments about it

1005
00:48:01,270 --> 00:48:00,400
um there was a lot of actually there's a

1006
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,280
lot of things

1007
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,359
in there that a lot of people never even

1008
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:05,680
thought about so those listening tonight

1009
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:08,720
you should go back if you search um ufo

1010
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:09,760
propulsion

1011
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:12,800
and our dr raymond keller

1012
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:16,160
uh you'll find it uh ray's provided a

1013
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:18,319
lot of very interesting articles

1014
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:22,319
that we have posted um

1015
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:31,510
obtained technology from

1016
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:35,599
visitors to our planet

1017
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:39,280
i guess i i i do i think we do

1018
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:42,319
we do have it um

1019
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:45,119
i used to live in uh in hillmark

1020
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:46,559
california

1021
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,040
when i was the director of osiris and

1022
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:51,599
published the new millennial star

1023
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:54,640
and um i would take groups that would

1024
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,119
come

1025
00:49:03,190 --> 00:48:58,240
to um that wanted to go

1026
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:03,200
on what i call the ufo tour

1027
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,640
so we we we go up to mount shasta we go

1028
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:08,960
out to uh

1029
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,319
you know pass livermore labs and so

1030
00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:14,400
forth and

1031
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:19,280
uh we go out to uh um to to area 51 even

1032
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:23,520
and then and then i own some land out at

1033
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,400
a place called daedal new mexico and

1034
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,559
it's right outside the very large

1035
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,400
array where they have the high

1036
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:32,880
resolution microwave survey

1037
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:36,880
right so my land

1038
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,000
my land is on top of horse mountain and

1039
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:42,000
you could look down into the valley

1040
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:43,040
there

1041
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:46,559
and see the very uh very large array

1042
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:49,680
and in that movie contact you know

1043
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:53,440
foster exactly what i was thinking about

1044
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,400
at the at the end of that movie she's

1045
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,240
sitting there

1046
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,480
where they have all the radio telescopes

1047
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:02,720
on the railroad tracks

1048
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,680
she's sitting there typing um typing

1049
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,440
some kind of code in for

1050
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,520
the radio telescope and you could see

1051
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:11,119
horse mountain

1052
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:14,559
uh in the in in the distance but anyway

1053
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:15,280
i had two

1054
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:18,079
experiences that convinced me that

1055
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:18,720
there's

1056
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:22,559
because

1057
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:26,640
one i went to um i went to uh

1058
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:29,839
the um uh with uh with a friend out

1059
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:30,240
there

1060
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:33,599
to deliver more labs

1061
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:36,880
and while i was there

1062
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:40,160
uh it was uh

1063
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:44,480
uh we were right up against the fence

1064
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,599
and uh we were gonna take a picture

1065
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:50,160
of the we were gonna take a picture of

1066
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:50,960
the

1067
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:54,559
array on top of this um is some kind of

1068
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,680
laser array or something on top of this

1069
00:51:01,670 --> 00:51:00,720
building and then a car um come a van

1070
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:01,680
came out and

1071
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:06,400
like a potato chip uh thing

1072
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,520
yeah yeah yeah they took the field they

1073
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:11,760
took the film away from our exposed

1074
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:12,400
stick

1075
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:16,240
is that right yeah and then another time

1076
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:19,440
we went to the um this was before they

1077
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:23,359
extended the borders of area 51 but we

1078
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,559
went to the

1079
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:27,359
what was the black mailbox it was not

1080
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,119
too far from this place called the

1081
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,440
little alien

1082
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:33,520
uh which is owned by somebody named

1083
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:35,040
keller too that's

1084
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,680
kind of interesting but we went there to

1085
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:39,280
the black mailbox and

1086
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,910
saw this long road going down there so

1087
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:46,640
we

1088
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:53,200
it it ends at a fence there's a fence

1089
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:54,319
line and it says

1090
00:52:03,190 --> 00:51:59,599
uh you know u.s government property

1091
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:03,200
authorized entry only use of force

1092
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:07,440
authorized you know to uh

1093
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:10,240
so it's a it's really something that's

1094
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:11,680
going on there

1095
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:14,319
and people have been up on that freedom

1096
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:16,160
ridge and looked down

1097
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:19,760
in there and saw um you know saw a lot

1098
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,079
of

1099
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:23,359
uh stuff and the people that live around

1100
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,000
there

1101
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:26,400
rachel nevada and that they they always

1102
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:27,359
see

1103
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:31,359
uh

1104
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:35,200
all kind of spacecraft so i wouldn't be

1105
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:38,480
surprised if um it it is alien

1106
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:40,960
technology

1107
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:43,920
yeah i i kind of believe it is i mean we

1108
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:45,760
have made so many advanced

1109
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:49,520
you know i i also think

1110
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:52,079
humans have the intellect to come up

1111
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,720
with some of

1112
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,440
this stuff but not all of it i mean our

1113
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:58,000
technology has advanced so quickly

1114
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,280
since the 50s it's it's just make your

1115
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:03,119
head spin actually

1116
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:06,480
so uh you know it's amazing and

1117
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:10,240
i have a friend in in cleveland uh his

1118
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:13,440
alias is peter core but he wrote

1119
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:17,599
from the 1950s from the early 1950s with

1120
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:24,710
flying saucers and amazing stories and

1121
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,400
and so forth and he was a friend of

1122
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,319
george hunt williamson and george

1123
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,640
adamski and was responsible for bringing

1124
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:33,760
them together

1125
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:39,349
meeting in cleveland when they first met

1126
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:40,720
each other

1127
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:44,800
adamski and williamson but he was also

1128
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,720
a scientist a atomic physicist that

1129
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:50,160
worked at

1130
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:54,800
at the at the livermore

1131
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:57,200
livermore labs and other government

1132
00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:58,480
things and he's

1133
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:01,280
convinced that uh that the flying

1134
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:02,400
saucers are

1135
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,800
are real and interplanetary um

1136
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:08,240
yeah that's another thing i wanted to

1137
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:11,280
ask you about about the travel

1138
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:16,079
um i i personally do not believe

1139
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:19,920
that it's all intergalactic

1140
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:22,160
travel i think a lot of it has to do

1141
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:23,280
with uh

1142
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:26,960
either wormholes or other type of

1143
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:30,559
means like that what do you think uh yes

1144
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,079
i think for the

1145
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:34,400
for the spacecraft that are coming in

1146
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:35,280
from

1147
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:41,440
the case and ro

1148
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:44,160
recently the director of the space

1149
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:45,040
program

1150
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:50,640
in israel had had confirmed what

1151
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:54,319
what the uh uh with paul hellyer the for

1152
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:57,839
uh former defense minister in canada

1153
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:00,480
under the pearson administration and

1154
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:05,040
from 1962 to 64. he was

1155
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:08,240
in the defense minister there and wilbur

1156
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:09,599
smith was the

1157
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:13,359
transportation work for the department

1158
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:14,880
of transportation

1159
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:18,720
radio engineer and the project magnet

1160
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:21,760
and all these foreign scientists and

1161
00:55:27,390 --> 00:55:25,119
experts they've all said that

1162
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,400
yes there is an interplanetary

1163
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:29,119
confederation

1164
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:32,240
and um george van tassel

1165
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:36,960
uh during the uh proceedings in the 1954

1166
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,160
uh giant rock convention he announced

1167
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,000
the existence

1168
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:44,319
of the interplanetary confederation and

1169
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:45,200
he said that

1170
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,040
uh that the earth isn't a member

1171
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,839
of it yet we have haven't proven

1172
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:54,160
ourselves

1173
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:57,200
worthy for entrance yet uh

1174
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:01,520
but um because we for various reasons

1175
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:05,440
but there are 601 planets

1176
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:09,280
uh planets moons space platforms and so

1177
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:10,240
forth

1178
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:13,680
uh that that are in the confederation of

1179
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:14,960
planets

1180
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:18,400
uh and they are coming from 51 different

1181
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:24,789
well that's interesting you know i i've

1182
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:26,079
had

1183
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:31,920
a confederation that i believe once was

1184
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:32,960
called

1185
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:35,520
uh the council of five i'm being told

1186
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:37,760
it's the council of three now

1187
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,920
that is on the dark side of the moon but

1188
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:41,760
basically there is

1189
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:45,040
some type of gathering there

1190
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,559
uh what do you think about that

1191
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:51,040
yes there there is uh there is such a

1192
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:51,599
thing

1193
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:55,680
and um uh columbia krebs wrote about it

1194
00:57:02,789 --> 00:56:58,960
and even provided a picture of it in

1195
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:02,799
lady colombo venus revelations

1196
00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:09,670
because the facilities are are limited

1197
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:10,839
on the moon

1198
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:14,400
itself and as far as accommodating

1199
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:15,040
different

1200
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:16,880
kind of beings and they're not all

1201
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:18,880
humanoid

1202
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,440
in appearance they come from these many

1203
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:23,680
worlds they have a space

1204
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:26,720
a space platform that they can launch

1205
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:29,040
from the moon based clarion on the far

1206
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:30,240
side and it's

1207
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:33,280
it's called the space leviathan

1208
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,880
and there's a meeting she drew a

1209
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:38,079
beautiful picture

1210
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:41,760
there of the the meeting it was presided

1211
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:42,160
over

1212
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:45,520
by uh by vorton

1213
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:48,319
um who was a communications officer

1214
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:49,920
aboard a ship

1215
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:53,359
and then it had the

1216
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:01,750
and they were all sitting around a table

1217
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:04,160
in the background you could see

1218
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:07,599
of the earth in the in the distance

1219
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,799
and then there was a commander or reigns

1220
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:12,480
with the beret

1221
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:15,599
as the commander of the moon base

1222
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:20,079
and and then these other evolved beings

1223
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:23,040
that were members of confederation

1224
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,000
planets just

1225
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:26,079
they were trying to decide what they

1226
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:27,599
should um

1227
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:30,640
do uh as far as

1228
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:34,000
the possible militarization uh

1229
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:37,359
of the moon and as uh america and russia

1230
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:44,390
and so she attended that meeting and and

1231
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:44,720
uh

1232
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,040
drew pictures of it and wrote all about

1233
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,950
well ray i tell you what we're gonna

1234
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:52,720
have to get together again

1235
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:55,760
soon maybe we can

1236
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,240
hit the road and go to another

1237
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,319
presentation again

1238
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,880
uh we've had some pretty interesting

1239
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,200
conversations over the years

1240
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:07,440
while we're on the road and i always

1241
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,440
look forward to that

1242
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,280
uh but there's a lot of other things i

1243
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:13,920
want to get into at another time

1244
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:17,200
especially some of the some of the stuff

1245
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:18,640
i wrote about it in my

1246
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:21,359
in my book alien disclosure that i

1247
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:23,040
wanted to discuss with you but then

1248
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:23,920
again if

1249
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:25,520
anything else comes up that's

1250
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:28,160
interesting i'm sure i can depend on

1251
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,119
on your knowledge and i thank you for

1252
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,200
that and again thank you for coming on

1253
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:34,799
tonight

1254
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:37,440
oh thank you thank you very much lon i

1255
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:37,920
always

1256
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:41,920
appreciate uh talking with you and

1257
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,920
and sharing this information with uh

1258
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:47,200
with the readers of

1259
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:50,720
of your books and all the audience

1260
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:54,000
of the arcane radio well you have a good

1261
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:56,559
weekend and we'll talk soon

1262
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:58,880
thank you and a happy fourth of july

1263
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:00,000
independence day

1264
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:05,510
now if you uh have an unexplained

1265
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,520
encounter sighting feel free to contact

1266
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:09,200
me through the fans of monsters blog

1267
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:10,000
site

1268
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:12,240
i once again thank dr raymond keller for

1269
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:14,799
joining me this evening and thanks to

1270
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,880
each and all of you for watching and

1271
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,880
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1272
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,000
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1273
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:22,559
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1274
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:23,440
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1275
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:26,720
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1276
01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:29,760
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1277
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,200
we have bill bean coming on uh most you

1278
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:35,760
people know who bill bean is i've been

1279
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:37,359
i've been involved with bill for a lot

1280
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:39,680
of years i'm on his radio show a lot as

1281
01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:40,079
well

1282
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:43,520
but he just wrote another book

1283
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:46,720
recently so um that should be a very

1284
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:47,760
interesting show

1285
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:50,480
so until next week stay healthy and have

1286
01:01:01,580 --> 01:00:52,000
a safe and enjoyable weekend

1287
01:01:01,590 --> 01:01:14,240
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1288
01:01:14,250 --> 01:01:39,300
[Applause]